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BBC: Shot man not connected to bombing

Following up on this post:

"A man shot dead by police hunting the bombers behind Thursday's London attacks was unconnected to the incidents, police have confirmed.

A Scotland Yard statement said the shooting was a "tragedy" which was regretted by the Metropolitan Police."

Full article is here

Edit: BBC is now naming the man who died as Jean Charles de Menezes, 27, a Brazilian electrician. It also mentions that "The Brazilian government has expressed its shock at the killing and Brazil's foreign minister Celso Amorim is on his way to London to get an explanation from foreign secretary Jack Straw".
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If he jumped the ticket barriers and ran for the train, then I can't really fault the police, considering the circumstances. I guess he realised he was being followed by surveillance officers.
BBC has now amended their description of events and is saying that "one person" claimed he jumped the barriers, rather than just stating it as fact.
Not good all round, but he was running away, jumping over barriers, ignoring police warnings...surely in that situation and if you are innocent despite being scared witless you should obey the police.
It depends, I think. If I was challenged by police, I'd stop. If I was shouted at by a bunch of solid-looking blokes, not in uniform, who and might just want to give me a good kicking, I'd run like hell.

As noted, there's going to be an investigation. I'm sure that'll cover that sort of thing - just how clearly was he challenged, did they act appropriately etc. Until then, it's all just speculation.

The guy's apparently from Brazil, where death squads are a historical fact, rather than a Blairite novelty.

Well, at least this will claim the heads of Charles Clarke, John Reid (if it was the SAS) and ideally Blair.
thats going to hurt the met.
Rumour has it it wasn't the Met. Rumour has it that it was certain gentlemen from Hereford.
It's certianly not the 'normal' Met. Not there type of operation.
Doesn't even sound like SO19. It sounds like a bunch of thugs who get their jollies by jacking off to Lewis Collins in "Who Dares, Wins" and Ross Kemp in "Ultimate Force".

Then again, we've had pretend police in the UK on many occasions, particularly during the miners' strike in 84-5. Lots of squaddies in blue at the time... getting a bit physical, too.

Soldiers brought in to reinforce the police?


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oh you mean special branch? ze secret poliss.
Looks like I was wrong and the Met are admitting responsibility, but
Hereford is the home of the Special Air Service.


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Mr Amorim was apparently coming to London anyway this week for other talks -- although one can only imagine that his agenda has changed rather dramatically.
It's not been mentioned, but his reluctance in staying put and therefore being apprehended may have been because he thought that:

a) He was going to be mugged
b) He was going to be attacked for racially-motivated reasons.

It's fairly easy to say that he shouldn't have sprinted off like that, but would you stand still if either of the above came to mind?
he may just have been nervous as 1) police were watching his street, 2) he gets on a bus and so do 5 heavily armed people and 3) they followed him off the bus and into the tube.